Comments on: The Three Types of Teachers, Part 3 http://www.markjryan.com/blog/2009/12/the-three-types-of-teachers-part-3/ Personal and spiritual development for proactive people. Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:40:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ryan Camana http://www.markjryan.com/blog/2009/12/the-three-types-of-teachers-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-221 Ryan Camana Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:27:17 +0000 http://www.markjryan.com/blog/?p=133#comment-221 Mark I love these posts. I have been incredibly fortunate in finding many teachers in the third category. A few in the second category and of course a couple in the first category. The interesting aspect that I've noticed is you can learn from any of them as long as the focus remains on yourself. I've discovered the third type of teacher does good not just for the good of others, he helps others because of the growth he or she receives. As any good coach knows, you have to clear the path in yourself to truly help another through their struggles. I believe this is the reward for being the third type of teacher. That immense growth that is received by boldly facing the limitations you see in others reflected in yourself. Mark I love these posts. I have been incredibly fortunate in finding many teachers in the third category. A few in the second category and of course a couple in the first category. The interesting aspect that I’ve noticed is you can learn from any of them as long as the focus remains on yourself.

I’ve discovered the third type of teacher does good not just for the good of others, he helps others because of the growth he or she receives.

As any good coach knows, you have to clear the path in yourself to truly help another through their struggles. I believe this is the reward for being the third type of teacher. That immense growth that is received by boldly facing the limitations you see in others reflected in yourself.

]]> By: John http://www.markjryan.com/blog/2009/12/the-three-types-of-teachers-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-216 John Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:42:07 +0000 http://www.markjryan.com/blog/?p=133#comment-216 Thank you Mark for sharing your useful perspective. I've had teachers that fit in all three of the catagories you have distinguished. I am curious about the teachers you find useful, if you would care to share. I realize that a good teacher for one person may not be the best for another. However I respect your judgement, your filter, and good teachers are hard to find. Aloha Thank you Mark for sharing your useful perspective. I’ve had teachers that fit in all three of the catagories you have distinguished. I am curious about the teachers you find useful, if you would care to share. I realize that a good teacher for one person may not be the best for another. However I respect your judgement, your filter, and good teachers are hard to find.
Aloha

]]> By: William http://www.markjryan.com/blog/2009/12/the-three-types-of-teachers-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-212 William Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:23:58 +0000 http://www.markjryan.com/blog/?p=133#comment-212 Thanks again Mark for the insights. I have seen those three levels played out on jobs,in families and also in relationships. The people who we allow into our lives can either bring out the best or the worst in us.As the authors of our lives we can always write out the characters who do not mean us any good. Thanks again Mark for the insights. I have seen those three levels played out on jobs,in families and also in relationships.
The people who we allow into our lives can either bring out the best or the worst in us.As the authors of our lives we can always write out the characters who do not mean us any good.

]]> By: Guy http://www.markjryan.com/blog/2009/12/the-three-types-of-teachers-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-193 Guy Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:38:12 +0000 http://www.markjryan.com/blog/?p=133#comment-193 It's convienient that you put them in levels... Makes it easier to walk away from situations. Thanks for your leadership. You should do a cool podcast and have loyal fans and stuff=-) It’s convienient that you put them in levels… Makes it easier to walk away from situations. Thanks for your leadership. You should do a cool podcast and have loyal fans and stuff=-)

]]> By: Dorothy http://www.markjryan.com/blog/2009/12/the-three-types-of-teachers-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-188 Dorothy Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:40:01 +0000 http://www.markjryan.com/blog/?p=133#comment-188 Mark, Thank you for providing this buffet of 'food for thought'. I think it is much needed. Also, thanks to everyone else who posted comments - thoughtful and insightful. Mark,
Thank you for providing this buffet of ‘food for thought’. I think it is much needed. Also, thanks to everyone else who posted comments – thoughtful and insightful.

]]> By: Tracie http://www.markjryan.com/blog/2009/12/the-three-types-of-teachers-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-187 Tracie Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:06:20 +0000 http://www.markjryan.com/blog/?p=133#comment-187 Mark, it took me some time to get through all of this. You should write a book! But I feel like I have a good sense of what you're talking about. Great job, great insights. Thank you for sharing. ~ T Mark, it took me some time to get through all of this. You should write a book! But I feel like I have a good sense of what you’re talking about. Great job, great insights. Thank you for sharing.

~ T

]]> By: RevRon http://www.markjryan.com/blog/2009/12/the-three-types-of-teachers-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-186 RevRon Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:14:09 +0000 http://www.markjryan.com/blog/?p=133#comment-186 Correction: Last paragraph should begin, "I feel fortunate to have enjoyed the tutelage of a true teacher, and to have clearly observed the behavior of others who fit your number 1." One day, I might learn not to pontificate before the coffee kicks in! :-) Correction: Last paragraph should begin, “I feel fortunate to have enjoyed the tutelage of a true teacher, and to have clearly observed the behavior of others who fit your number 1.”

One day, I might learn not to pontificate before the coffee kicks in! :-)

]]> By: RevRon http://www.markjryan.com/blog/2009/12/the-three-types-of-teachers-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-185 RevRon Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:11:54 +0000 http://www.markjryan.com/blog/?p=133#comment-185 While I think we need to recognize that everyone we encounter can be a teacher to us, I tend to give extra scrutiny to those who call themselves teachers. Those who assume the role of teachers - true teachers, per your number 3 - perceive themselves as students who are charged with the responsibility of helping their fellow students. They are not trapped in the need for the ego-based arrogance that places them above their "students," but recognize that each student is their equal. Just as a parent, at the moment of their child's birth, casts aside their own dreams to wish for their child to surpass those dreams, so does a true teacher revel in the experience of seeing a student rise above the teacher's own potential. Sadly, too many who consider themselves teachers assume the role for their own self-aggrandizement, rather than for the betterment of their charges. They are easy to identify by their arrogance, their constant claims (some subtle, some obvious) that they have reached a level to which their students must aspire, and their constant need for tokens to reinforce their self-image. While I feel genuine compassion for anyone who follows a destructive path, that compassion is strained by such teachers' efforts to limit the evolvement of their students in order to overcome their own fears and shame, and to bolster their own obsession with acquiring more things. I feel fortunate to have enjoyed the tutelage of a true teacher, and to have clearly observed the behavior of others who fit your number 3. The one left me both hopeful and humbled, while the other left me cynical. My hope is that the wisdom of the first might prove the stronger in the larger world, and that the others might one day find the strength and integrity to assume the role of true stewards. But they can only rise to that noble task when they realize that a teacher is bound to his or her students, and that no amount of wealth, fame, or adulation can satisfy the cravings of ego. Only a constant, upward march, hand in hand with equals on a shared journey, can lead one to a true sense of peace. The hopeful and humbled part of me wants to believe that peace is the goal we all seek, while the more cynical part of me is reinforced by seeing some "teachers" constant parade of cynical behavior. Ultimately, I wish these people well, but in the interim, I wish them exposed. And that's MY task to overcome. While I think we need to recognize that everyone we encounter can be a teacher to us, I tend to give extra scrutiny to those who call themselves teachers. Those who assume the role of teachers – true teachers, per your number 3 – perceive themselves as students who are charged with the responsibility of helping their fellow students. They are not trapped in the need for the ego-based arrogance that places them above their “students,” but recognize that each student is their equal.

Just as a parent, at the moment of their child’s birth, casts aside their own dreams to wish for their child to surpass those dreams, so does a true teacher revel in the experience of seeing a student rise above the teacher’s own potential. Sadly, too many who consider themselves teachers assume the role for their own self-aggrandizement, rather than for the betterment of their charges.

They are easy to identify by their arrogance, their constant claims (some subtle, some obvious) that they have reached a level to which their students must aspire, and their constant need for tokens to reinforce their self-image. While I feel genuine compassion for anyone who follows a destructive path, that compassion is strained by such teachers’ efforts to limit the evolvement of their students in order to overcome their own fears and shame, and to bolster their own obsession with acquiring more things.

I feel fortunate to have enjoyed the tutelage of a true teacher, and to have clearly observed the behavior of others who fit your number 3. The one left me both hopeful and humbled, while the other left me cynical. My hope is that the wisdom of the first might prove the stronger in the larger world, and that the others might one day find the strength and integrity to assume the role of true stewards. But they can only rise to that noble task when they realize that a teacher is bound to his or her students, and that no amount of wealth, fame, or adulation can satisfy the cravings of ego. Only a constant, upward march, hand in hand with equals on a shared journey, can lead one to a true sense of peace. The hopeful and humbled part of me wants to believe that peace is the goal we all seek, while the more cynical part of me is reinforced by seeing some “teachers” constant parade of cynical behavior.

Ultimately, I wish these people well, but in the interim, I wish them exposed. And that’s MY task to overcome.

]]> By: Aymee http://www.markjryan.com/blog/2009/12/the-three-types-of-teachers-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-184 Aymee Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:37:06 +0000 http://www.markjryan.com/blog/?p=133#comment-184 Mark, I am profoundly moved by your post. All I ask, the Divine each morning when I wake up is to allow me to serve my clients/students in the highest and best way possible. I recognize the number of shortcomings that I have as a human being and constantly ask to be released from all of that stuff and for it not to get in the way of what I love to do. I feel best when my students soar, and grow. I want every single person who I touch to know that they ARE a star and make up such an important part of the bigger picture. I have been called naive, a hopeless idealist, Champion Idealist as if it were a "bad thing", but it feels SO RIGHT to me... The "one" thing I know in my heart and soul is that I am here to give, to help others grow and to realize their full potential. We each have our own unique "mojo" so It's hard to understand how keeping someone else down would benefit us. But I know some teachers do. I have been fortunate that a some of my greatest mentors have been incredibly generous. And I have also experienced the bitter dissapointment by someone that I greatly loved and respected that has lost his way. All I ask the Divine is to continue to mold me into the person I was meant to become, by realizing my full potential on this earthly plane. To help me reach as many people as I can in the most significant way, and to only leave love inspiration and hope where I go... And to not let my big fat ego get in the way! That's it.. Thank you for this post.. I love you and admire your genius and passion! You know you are one of my mentors! I love your work.. Keep it up! Love and Blessings, Aymee Mark,

I am profoundly moved by your post.

All I ask, the Divine each morning when I wake up is to allow me to serve my clients/students in the highest and best way possible.

I recognize the number of shortcomings that I have as a human being and constantly ask to be released from all of that stuff and for it not to get in the way of what I love to do.

I feel best when my students soar, and grow. I want every single person who I touch to know that they ARE a star and make up such an important part of the bigger picture.

I have been called naive, a hopeless idealist, Champion Idealist as if it were a “bad thing”, but it feels SO RIGHT to me…

The “one” thing I know in my heart and soul is that I am here to give, to help others grow and to realize their full potential.

We each have our own unique “mojo” so It’s hard to understand how keeping someone else down would benefit us. But I know some teachers do.

I have been fortunate that a some of my greatest mentors have been incredibly generous. And I have also experienced the bitter dissapointment by someone that I greatly loved and respected that has lost his way.

All I ask the Divine is to continue to mold me into the person I was meant to become, by realizing my full potential on this earthly plane. To help me reach as many people as I can in the most significant way, and to only leave love inspiration and hope where I go… And to not let my big fat ego get in the way!

That’s it..

Thank you for this post.. I love you and admire your genius and passion! You know you are one of my mentors! I love your work.. Keep it up!

Love and Blessings,
Aymee

]]> By: Eunice Krecek, CH http://www.markjryan.com/blog/2009/12/the-three-types-of-teachers-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-182 Eunice Krecek, CH Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:40:37 +0000 http://www.markjryan.com/blog/?p=133#comment-182 Mark, What an interesting set of blogs. You certainly have given this a lot of thought. It is interesting that you are bringing forward this information at this time. Look at the world. So many of our leaders are in the group #1 catagory. We need to be aware of that. You are a rising "star" and have a lot to share. You did not give yourself credit for your success because you were not the star of the trip. Now claim you success you earned it. Build on it. There are a lot of people who would like your type of information. Remember, to be the best Mark Ryan that you can be. Eunice Mark,
What an interesting set of blogs. You certainly have given this a lot of thought. It is interesting that you are bringing forward this information at this time. Look at the world. So many of our leaders are in the group #1 catagory. We need to be aware of that. You are a rising “star” and have a lot to share. You did not give yourself credit for your success because you were not the star of the trip. Now claim you success you earned it. Build on it. There are a lot of people who would like your type of information. Remember, to be the best Mark Ryan that you can be.
Eunice

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